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Politics Reality Checkers Nuke Joe Biden on Diplomacy as Iran Takes Center Phase

by Roland Alpin
January 18, 2020
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Fact checkers from a number of different facility media operations squashed former Vice President Joe Biden today as the problem of Iranian hostility continues to mesmerize the nation just weeks from the Iowa caucuses.

The shift to diplomacy in the nationwide political dispute has actually not been kind to Biden, who has actually been hammered by everyone from PolitiFact, to the Washington Post, to even CNN.

Just today, three harsh reality checks came crushing down on Biden– whom Breitbart News and President Donald Trump’s campaign previously this week exposed as regularly lying about diplomacy— on a number of various fronts.

First Of All, PolitiFact nailed the previous vice president for embellishing claims about his role in former President Barack Obama’s choice to buy the raid that eliminated Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in 2011.

In an exchange with Fox News’s Peter Doocy recently, Biden lied and declared that he was encouraging of Obama’s choice to send out in the special forces group that killed bin Laden:

Doocy: “As leader in chief, if you were ever handed a piece of intelligence that stated you can stop an impending attack on Americans however you have to utilize an airstrike to take out a horror leader, would you shoot?”

Biden: “Well, we did. Person’s name was Osama bin Laden.”

Doocy: “Didn’t you tell President Obama not to go after bin Laden?”

Biden: “No, I didn’t. I didn’t.”

That was untrue, as Breitbart News and many other outlets have kept in mind. Biden did oppose the raid, as he, Obama himself, then-White House press secretary Jay Carney, and several Obama Cabinet officials verified at the time.

PolitiFact’s Amy Sherman nailed Biden for this, writing in part:

In January 2012 at a Democratic congressional retreat, Biden stated how Obama asked senior authorities whether they should proceed with the raid. Everybody in the space “hedged their bet” other than CIA Director Leon Panetta, who stated “go.”

” Mr. President, my idea is, do not go,” Biden recounted. “‘ We need to do 2 more things to see if he’s there.” (He did not explain what the 2 additional things were at the time.)

( When a reporter asked White Home spokesman Jay Carney in 2012 about Biden’s remarks stating he was against the raid, Carney stated: “I understand that he is speaking accurately.”)

In May 2012 on NBC’s Meet journalism, Biden said he informed Obama “follow your instincts.”

” I wanted him to take one more day to do one more test to see if he was there,” Biden stated.

Obama’s statement during a dispute in 2012 supported the idea that Biden was critical about the raid proposition. Obama said that “even some in my own party, including my present vice president,” critiqued the proposed raid.

Sherman sums up many other declarations Biden himself, and others in the understand, made about this matter at the time, and then rates Biden’s claim to Doocy as “mostly incorrect.”

Fact-checking Biden for the exact same false claim on Wednesday, the Washington Post‘s truth checker Glenn Kessler kept in mind that the previous vice president is “to put it slightly … not the most disciplined speaker.”

Kessler wrote:

He often gets himself in problem with flat statements and developing variations of the exact same story. His recommendations in 2011 to President Barack Obama on whether to run the risk of an attack on the possible area of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden is a case in point.

After setting out a variety of contrasting declarations from Biden over the years on this, in addition to various statements and claims from Obama and others, Kessler concludes that Biden’s “story of his recommendations to Obama has evolved gradually.”

” He now states he’s telling the full story, involving both a conference of top consultants and a personal discussion afterward with Obama,” Kessler wrote. He continued:

According to the numerous accounts of administration authorities associated with the internal debate, Biden was one of the 2 main skeptics of the intelligence recommending that bin Laden was in Abbottabad. He openly even stated that he stated ‘don’t go’ up until more intelligence was collected. So it’s definitely clear he encouraged Obama not to address that minute when Obama’s advisers were debating the issue. No matter what he stated to Obama independently, he can not so easily argue that he did not offer this guidance.

Kessler then rated Biden’s lie with three Pinocchios, almost the worst ranking a lying political leader can get from the Washington Post.

That’s not the only lie Biden has actually informed in recent days on diplomacy. On Monday, CNN of all places dug deep into Biden’s current claims that he opposed the Iraq war “from the beginning”– which are untrue, since Biden elected it and said on the day then-President George W. Bush released the war that he believes Congress must be “helpful.”

CNN’s Daniel Dale exposed Biden’s remarks as ones made “dishonestly” in a lengthy truth check of the previous vice president, composing in part:

Democratic governmental prospect Joe Biden dishonestly recommended on Saturday that he had actually opposed the war in Iraq “from the very minute” it began in 2003– although Biden’s campaign said in September that he “misspoke” when he made a similar claim.

Biden was responding Saturday to a citizen in Des Moines, Iowa, who informed him, “I’m with you 90%of the method” however questioned his judgment in part since “you were for the second Gulf War, which was a mess.”

Biden stated that “from the very minute” President George W. Bush introduced his “shock and wonder” military project, and “right after” that took place, “I opposed what he was doing, and talked to him.”

It’s false that Biden opposed the war from the minute Bush began it in March2003 Biden repeatedly spoke in favor of the war both prior to and after it began.

Biden’s language on Saturday– stating he opposed “what he was doing” at the moment the war began– was more vague than his language in September, when he flatly said he had actually opposed “the war” at that minute. However the brand-new variation was highly misleading even under the most generous interpretation.

Dale even estimated a CNN interview Biden gave in 2003, after Bush got into Iraq, throughout which Biden stated in part that he was “helpful” of Bush’s war in Iraq, as he and numerous others in Congress voted to provide him the authority to do so.

” We have one single focus,” Biden said because March 19, 2003, interview, which was carried out the day the war started. “Which is, we will send our ladies and men to war. The president is the commander-in-chief. We voted to offer him the authority to wage that war. We ought to step back and be encouraging.”

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